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#41

The SEF/SEW Roster / 313

Last post by Da Gangstas - March 12, 2025, 01:09:41 AM

TEAM NAME

Detroit "313" Playaz

THEME MUSIC
Survival by Eminem

FINISHING MOVE
313
(Double Superkick)

Detroit Driver

(Superkick and Spear in Stereo)

TRADEMARK MOVES
Stereo Gangsta Splashes, Shooting Star Leg Drop followed by Flying Elbow Drop, Backbreaker and Flying Elbow Drop in Stereo

BIOGRAPHY

D-Mack and J X CASH have been friends for over two decades and Mack actually trained CASH, saved him by getting him into wrestling. CASH almost threw it all away, but Mack helped him again cause what are friends for!? Now their helping each other again because SEF needs a good tag team and Mack is a friend for any in need, so CASH is looking at this to reinvigorate himself in the wrestling world, in SEF. CASH isn't working on the west coast where SEF went to and so ANA is going to use the opportunity to reinvigorate himself by being who he always has been to Mack, one of his Detroit homies. ANA lives in the 313, but is going wherever SEF Takes him. He will always call Detroit home and Mack, as well as J X CASH, his friends.

[Friday, March 14th, 2025]

#42

Weekly SEW WAR Event Promos / WAR Card

Last post by BDM - March 11, 2025, 12:16:28 AM

 
 Date/Time: Friday, March 14th, 2025

SEF Owner: NBD

Venue: WAR Dome in Los Angelos, CA

Theme: Trenches by Pop Evil

Event Staff

Timekeeper - Commentator - Color Commentator - Ring Announcer/Interviewer - Referee - Referee - Referee

The NEW WAR Tag Team Champions Will Be In The WAR Dome LIVE

The Universal Champion Will Address Wrestle X on April 5th and SEF TV TOMORROW

D-Mack Will Be Here LIVE in the WAR Dome

Womens WAR TV Championship Match
Sierra Perry v. Tonya Walker(c)

Main Event
WAR TV Championship Steel Cage Match
ANA v. X PhoeniX(c)

 CARD IS SUBJECT TO CHANGE

 All Promos For This Event Go in the Weekly SEW WAR Event Promos

[Saturday, March 15th, 2025]

#43

Monthly Saturday Night SEF TV Event Promos / SEF TV

Last post by BDM - March 10, 2025, 11:59:05 PM

 Date/Time: Saturday, March 15th, 2025

SEF Owner: NBD

Venue:  T-Mobile Arena in Las Vegas, NV

Theme: Fuel by Eminem

Event Staff
 Timekeeper - Commentator - Color Commentator - Ring Announcer/Interviewer - Referee - Referee - Referee

SEF Womens Evolution Championship Fatal 4 Way Match
Jade West v. Tonya Walker v. Sierra Perry v. Samantha Fame(c)

Boss Johnson v. Black Crow

SEF Womens Tag Team Championship Match
The Devil's Playground(Nikita & Cruella Perry)
v.
Sexy Sensual Sweeties(LBD & Taylor Andrews)(c)

Bunny Summers v. Boozer

Main Event
6 Star Tag Team Match
Simon Lee Nash & 313(D-Mack & ANA)
v.
X Phoenix + Bongman + Big Farm A

 CARD IS SUBJECT TO CHANGE

 All Promos For This Event Go in the Saturday Night SEF TV Event Promo

#44

Weekly SEW WAR Event Promos / Re: Friday Night WAR

Last post by BDM - March 10, 2025, 11:52:35 PM

Trenches by Pop Evil plays over the pa of the WAR Dome in Los Angelos California where we are live.

 

Frank Malone: Welcome to Friday Night WAR!!! Here in LA tonight and its a bit warmer than where we're used to being, but not a complaint from me. Feels good in LA tonight and its hotter than hell inside the WAR Dome with a sold out crowd here to see three title matches and a huge six star tag team match in the main event.

 

Bill McLane: More like a three on two main event since Simon Lee ain't here and no word on why.

 

Frank Malone: No word indeed. We know why J X CASH ain't here and one has to wonder what that means for the WAR Tag Team Championship as Mack is hellbent on keeping them.

 

Bill McLane: He better get ready to kiss those titles goodbye!

 

Frank Malone: He may have to?! Opening the show is newcomer Boss Johnson in his third match now on WAR where he looks to take out Bongman's buddy Boozer.

 

I'm A Bad Man by Michael Jackson plays over the pa and here comes Boss Johnson flexing on his way to the ring and smirking arrogantly. Walk by Foo Fighters plays out Boozer who steps out downing the rest of his forty ounce and tosses the empty off the stage to head to the ring.

 

Boss Johnson v. Boozer

 

Boozer coming out swinging and Boss Johnson easily dodges him to knock him down with a hard right. Boozer bouncing back up to knocked down a couple more times, then BJ drops him with the BAKO and makes the pin.

 

Winner: Boss Johnson

 

I'm A Bad Man by Michael Jackson plays over the pa and Boss arrogantly raising his arms in the air.

 

Frank Malone: That was a quick match and Boozer is going to need another forty ounce or two!?!

 

Bill McLane: He needed some help from his buddies!

 

Frank Malone: Boss Johnson needs a real fight.

 

Binge and Purge by Clutch plays over the pa bringing Bongman and Big Farm A out to check on Boozer who is recovering at ringside still. Bongman handing him a forty ounce while Big Farm A gets a chair to set it up at ringside for Boozer who stays out here. 'Till I Collapse by Eminem plays over the pa and here comes D-Mack in his ring gear carrying both belts that represent the WAR Tag Team Championship and he skips to the ring arrogantly.

 

WAR Tag Team Championship Match

Bongman & Big Farm A v. 313(D-Mack & J X CASH)(c)

 

Mack throwing rights and lefts with Bongman and Big Farm A, then chops both in the chest in corners. Mack all over them both with kicks and Boozer guzzling his forty ounce down when X Phoenix descends from the rafters to the stage, then runs down to the ring as Boozer jumps on the apron bringing the ref over with his back to Phoenix sliding in the ring going toe to toe with Mack. Bongman with a chop block to the back of Mack's knee and Phoenix into Rising Phoenix on Mack. Phoenix then lifts Mack up to hit Cross and rolls out of the ring to back up the ramp. Boozer hops down and Bongman into the pin on Mack with Big Farm A helping him hold Mack down.

 

Winners and NEW WAR Tag Team Champions: Carp River Posse

 

Binge and Purge by Clutch plays over the pa and barely audible as the crowd booing very loud.

 

Frank Malone: Can't hear yourself think right now and I don't blame the crowd, that was a screwjob and a half. F***you Phoenix!

 

Bill McLane: But we just crowned new WAR Tag Team Champions and at least the new champs can travel anywhere!

 

Frank Malone: They couldn't beat Mack two or three on one! Phoenix ain't done with Mack, but may be done being WAR TV Champion cause he needs to focus on ANA who he faces after the Womens WAR TV Championship which is up next and it is hardcore rules.

 

Living Dead Girl by Rob Zombie plays over the pa and here comes Jade to the ring slapping a few hands along the way. Walking On Sunshine by Katrina and The Waves plays out the Womens WAR TV Champion, Tonya Walker. She waves arrogantly at the crowd while flaunting her title, then gets to the ring and pulls out a table sliding it in before she does.

 

Womens WAR TV Championship Hardcore Match

Jade West v. Tonya Walker(c)

 

A lock up starts this match with a side headlock by Tonya who gets shoved to the ropes and meets Jade with a shoulder block, but both women stay on their feet. Jade runs the ropes to come back for a shoulder block and still they both stand their ground. They begin slapping each other and now punching, then Tonya knees Jade in the ribs and whips her across the ring looking for a dropkick. Jade stops short letting Tonya fall to the mat, then runs to the left springing off the ropes into a baseball slide dropkick sending Tonya near the ropes. Tonya grabbing the bottom rope pulling herself out of the ring on her knees with a hand possibly going under the ring. Jade jumping up to stay on Tonya with a kick to the back. Tonya arching back, but pulling a cookie sheet out to slam against the arm of Jade. Tonya getting up to slam it against her arm again, then over her head and against her back a few times. Tonya rolling Jade into the ring and goes back underneath to pull out a trash can and barbed wire ballbat throwing them in the ring. Tonya slides in to grab the barbed wire bat slamming it into the ribs of Jade, then against her head slicing her open with a few trickles. Tonya setting the table up in the middle of the ring and Jade getting up seeing her own blood becomes a bit enraged. She delivers a Jade Kick to Tonya and sets her up for the Jade Bomb. Tonya with a hurricanrana counter into a roll up pin for a two count. Tonya springs up to catch Jade with a superkick, grabs her and delivers a Powerslam through the table, then pins her.

 

Winner: Tonya Walker

 

Walking On Sunshine by Katrina and The Waves hits the pa and Tonya gets up to snatch her title and stand tall over a bloody Jade West.

 

Frank Malone: That was hardcore and Tonya proved why she is crazy enough to compete in these matches.

 

Bill McLane: Maybe Jade should have brought her scissors? She is getting soft!

 

Frank Malone: She took a good beating tonight and is walking out of here on her own. Now we find out who walks out as the mens WAR TV Champion!?

 

Hell Yeah by Rev Theory plays over the pa bringing ANA out in his swat gear looking pumped for a fight. Rock You Like A Hurricane by the Scorpions plays over the pa as the lights dim down enough to allow a spotlight to appear on the stage where Jake Voss steps out with his arms out in a crucifix pose. He stomps across the stage and down the ramp as the announcer introduces him.

 

"Making his way to the ring from Albuquerque New Mexico, weighing in at two hundred thirty pounds, Phoenix."

 

He keeps marching down to turn and head up the ring steps to enter the ring and heads right for the turnbuckles pumping his fists in the air.

 

WAR TV Championship Match

ANA v. X Phoenix(c)

 

A lock up starts this match and ANA forcing Phoenix to a corner, but backs up letting him out. Phoenix circling ANA and looks for another lock up, but knees him in the gut and clamps on a side headlock looking for a bulldog, but stops short to squeeze on the pressure. ANA powering him up and into a back suplex bridging for a pin, but only gets a two count. Phoenix rolling out and springing up to his feet to catch ANA with a shining wizard, then heads to the top rope flipping off into a Phoenix Splash. Phoenix rolling up again to spring off the ropes into a regular splash and a pin hooking the leg for a two count. Phoenix pulling ANA up looking for Cross perhaps, but ANA won't let himself get flipped up, so Phoenix instead drops back pulling ANA into a piledriver and a pin for a two count. Phoenix pulling ANA back up again for Cross, but gets a back body drop and ANA running to the ropes to hit Smoked, but Phoenix getting into the ropes as he gets the clutch locked in. ANA braking as the ref counts and rolls away to stagger up. Phoenix getting up into a run for Rising Phoenix, but ANA counts with a release german suplex. ANA getting to his feet and starts pumping himself up when Boozer, Bongman, and Big Farm A hit the ring to pummel ANA with punches. He throws them all off him and the ref lets it go, but Phoenix is on his feet. ANA charging him and Phoenix leapfrogs a spear to counter with Rising Phoenix, then pulls up ANA for Cross, but gets flipped on to his back. Bongman with his WAR Tag Team Title belts he ripped off his waist to bash ANA in the back of his head with it. Big Farm A with his hand now runs into ANA bashing him in the face, then Boozer gets an empty beer bottle smashing that over ANA's head. The ref having enough.

 

Winner: ANA

 

Phoenix pulls ANA up for Cross hitting it on him and grabs his WAR TV Title belt to exit with the Carp River Posse in tow.

 

Frank Malone: Least ANA got the win, but he didn't get a victory.

 

Bill McLane: He can't beat Phoenix anyways!

 

Frank Malone: We'll find out next week cause I got word from the boss, and not Boss Johnson, that we're going to see a rematch next week and we're bringing the steel cage with us because it will be inside a steel cage, ANA versus X Phoenix for the WAR TV Championship! Now its time for our main event and still no Simon Lee Nash.

 

Heaven Knows by The Pretty Reckless plays Taylor Andrews out to the ring and she doesn't break her stride for no odds against her. Walking On Sunshine by Katrina and The Waves plays out Bunny Summers who skips out to be by Taylor's side inside the cage. The Devil's Playground now make their entrance walking around the ring to slowly enter one by one.

 

Main Event

Non Title 6 Star Tag Team Steel Cage Match

Taylor Andrews + Simon Lee Nash + Bunny Summers

v.

The Devil's Playground(Sierra, Cruella, Nikita Perry)

 

The Perry Sisters and The Wolf stand together, although they are all Perry sisters technically. Taylor and Bunny stand together and collide for a fight. Bunny taking Sierra down as Taylor tries to chop and punch Nikita and Cruella away from her. She takes down Cruella with a short arm clothesline, but Nikita with a german suplex to Taylor rolling into a second, but Taylor blocking a third to roll through forward into a pin for a two count. Sierra has Bunny in a corner kicking at her, then nails chops to her chest. Taylor with a superkick to Nikita and runs into Cruella for a sto, but gets a knee to the stomach and lifted up for a chokeslam getting dropped to the mat. Sierra with Bunny on the top rope and climbs up to superplex her down, then goes for the pin getting a two count. Cruella with Taylor up in a goozle calls for Sierra to help her, so her sister gets up to goozle Taylor as well and they lift her up for a double chokeslam and both lay on her for the pin. Taylor kicks out at two and Sierra yelling at Cruella blaming her for not covering her enough. Nikita on her feet to get between them reminding them why they're here. Bunny Summers comes in with her own reminder in the form of a dropkick sending Cruella and Nikita down. Sierra quickly drops an elbow, but Bunny moves in time to bounce up and off the ropes into a shoulder tackle knocking Sierra back down. Cruella and Nikita on their feet and Bunny runs at them looking for another dropkick, but they step apart and catch Bunny to throw her facefirst into the cage. Taylor on her feet to go for Cruella and Nikita, but Sierra diving into her with a spear. Sierra pulling Taylor up whipping her to Cruella who delivers a boot to Taylor's face. Nikita hitting the Wolf's Spear and pins Taylor, but Bunny breaks it up. Cruella getting met with punches from Bunny, but Sierra runs over with a clothesline taking Bunny down. Cruella yanking Bunny up into a chokeslam, then Nikita grabs her to deliver a Wolf Bomb and Sierra with a frog splash from the top of the cage on Bunny and the pin ends it.

 

Winners: The Devil's Playground

 

A rowdy crowd as the sisters stand tall for the end of WAR. Trenches by Pop Evil plays through the WAR Dome in LA.

[I could care less what anyone has to say or do around here, and that could be very scary for everyone on the roster because I only care about myself for once. Phoenix, Jake Voss, my old friend, I remember our days in the backwoods, our wars in the ring, our alliances. I know what you are capable of you and yes you do know me, and no I have not forgotten what I am capable of. Yes, I endured more than I should have for managements sake, and yes it will take some time to reinvent myself because it is forced upon me to do so. So it will take time and maybe I won't be taking your title, maybe I am not the biggest threat to you, but if you have your mind on any other match besides ours, I will take advantage and end your title reign. I could see myself being WAR TV Champion. I am a former champion, former World Champion like yourself. The only question is, who gets back to the top first!? You are in no better position really. Sure you have the WAR TV Title, but be honest Phoenix, you could lose that any given week to a guy like me, or Mack, or anyone who really wants it. And I want to make sure you're the best champion you can be because I want to beat the best, so if you're distracted by another match, then I will beat you for not being the best, but I will still take it.]

#45

Weekly SEW WAR Event Promos / Re: Brother in Arms

Last post by Da Gangstas - March 08, 2025, 12:10:15 AM

On the other side of the arena in the visitors locker room reserved for IXF sits ANA in his swat gear with his hair down around his head as he hangs it over the floor while sitting on a bench just staring down with no emotion, no care, no worries.
 
ANA
I could care less what anyone has to say or do around here, and that could be very scary for everyone on the roster because I only care about myself for once. Phoenix, Jake Voss, my old friend, I remember our days in the backwoods, our wars in the ring, our alliances. I know what you are capable of you and yes you do know me, and no I have not forgotten what I am capable of. Yes, I endured more than I should have for managements sake, and yes it will take some time to reinvent myself because it is forced upon me to do so. So it will take time and maybe I won't be taking your title, maybe I am not the biggest threat to you, but if you have your mind on any other match besides ours, I will take advantage and end your title reign. I could see myself being WAR TV Champion. I am a former champion, former World Champion like yourself. The only question is, who gets back to the top first!? You are in no better position really. Sure you have the WAR TV Title, but be honest Phoenix, you could lose that any given week to a guy like me, or Mack, or anyone who really wants it. And I want to make sure you're the best champion you can be because I want to beat the best, so if you're distracted by another match, then I will beat you for not being the best, but I will still take it.
 
ANA looks up with intensity in his dark eyes, then reaches up with his left hand pushing the camera away to fade to black.

#46

Weekly SEW WAR Event Promos / Re: Bunny Summers Speaks on He...

Last post by The Perry Family - March 08, 2025, 12:08:22 AM

The perry sisters appear in the ring after commercial and Sierra looks at bunny and Taylor so far they only two that are there and she then begin to talk.

Sierra Perry well well once again we are facing in the ring the Universal Champion Taylor Andrews and Bunny Summers hey bunny what happened with Tonya aww did u2 split up or are you jealous because she has a championship around her waist and you do not anyway it not my business the only thing im concerned about is us beating you 3 inside of a steel cage tonight and pinning either one of you inside of this ring and throwing u2  actually all of you around the 15 foot high steel cage and making min meat out of all of your bones and bodies and using the steel cage to our advantage because

Sierry perry we love being inside of a steel cage espically me, u know why because this is our type of match hardcore and steel cages  and putting our lives on the line! i just want to rub your faces along this steel cage u see steel cage hardcore metal oh i love it i love matches like these because this is where i get my energy this is where the best of me comes out because this is our environment and trust me when im inside my comfort zone there is no telling what iam going to do! when i got one of your heads under my arm trust me when i say this u2 are going to be done!

Cruella perry and the fact that this is  non title 6 person tag team match makes it even better like she said this is where the devil has it at its best this is where the devil in us comes out there is noway either one of you are going to be able to get the upper hand because once the match begins! it is going to be all devils playground this is the devils playground! get ready because this is satan's home u3 locked inside hell with us and there is nowhere to go


Nikita the Wolf perry this is our Home the devil called us tonight and he welcomed us home u know this ring is our home this steel cage is going to be our Home tonight iam feeling wolfee tonight the Wolf loves being inside of this steel cage trust me when i say this u2 and simon nash if he even shows up we going to beat the living hell out of you all and there is nothing anyone can do about it the Wolf is in full power and nothing cna stop it

Sierra perry this is my Night and u know why iam Number 1! the devil loves Number 1 he made me Number 1 and u know why because he knows iam going be the one who comes out with the win! so rather it is u Taylor or u Bunny or Simon i pin to win the match it does not matter long as Number 1 comes out with the win

she wait

[Dude, Mack is all alone tonight, and the three of us got to take that gold from him.]

#47

Weekly SEW WAR Event Promos / Re: Brother in Arms

Last post by X Phoenix - March 07, 2025, 11:46:18 PM

Backstage we see Bongman and Big Farm A walking out of the mens locker room with Boozer following them guzzling his forty ounce. Bongman smoking a blunt as Big Farm A says.

 

BFA

Dude, Mack is all alone tonight, and the three of us got to take that gold from him.

 

Bongman
Yea we do. Be about time that the CRiPs were champions!

 

Boozer drinking to that and slaps Bongman on the back.

 

BFA

We gotta lot of work ahead of us.

 

Bongman

Yea.

 

The three walking to the end of the aisle leading out to the arena floor at section G taking a few steps and just chilling until showtime.

#48

Weekly SEW WAR Event Promos / Re: Bunny Summers Speaks on He...

Last post by BunnySummers - March 07, 2025, 11:40:27 PM

Bunny Summers i can not wait for tonight what if we put all our high flying moves off the top of the cage at the same time on top of the Perry family by the way they do not scare me at all tonight belongs to us this is going be the Night nobody wil ever forget tonight we are going to rock the 1980s until Dawn

she put her arm around taylor n waits

[Haven't seen you show up yet ANA and I hope you do. Not just for Mack's sake to keep me busy and out of his match. I hope to get back to business with you ANA because we have had almost parallel careers since you came to SEF, or showed up here to be Marijuana Mack. And at one time I was Super Mack. You and I sat around a few camp fires shooting hand guns into the back woods of Mississippi I think it was, or somewhere in that region. We have a lot of history between us and this match on WAR for my WAR TV Title could be bigger than any other match tonight. Hell, it is for me, this is a match I am looking forward to, a match I am prepared to endure for an hour or longer because I know what were capable of. Now I am not so sure ANA, I am not sure you even want to be here, but maybe you're throwing back to your early days and using that mind of yours to play me!? Well two can play that game ANA, but I don't think that's it. You have been overburdened with a role as playing the Owner for too long and maybe you just need a break, away from the ring!? Maybe you need my title? But getting it from me is going to be real hard these days because I'm simply not going to allow it to slip from my grasp. I may not get involved in anyone else's match, you're welcome Mack, but that doesn't mean no one else will get involved in other matches, or Mack's, or ours, ANA!?!?!]

#49

Weekly SEW WAR Event Promos / Brother in Arms

Last post by X Phoenix - March 07, 2025, 11:36:30 PM

X Phoenix does not isolate himself, he just feels comfortable in seclusion watching everyone run around. Jake Voss is social, he has his friends, he enjoys his circle. But in wrestling he is one man set apart from the pack and he will continue to operate as such for years to come. No one is above him, figuratively, and maybe literally right now as he perches in his usual spot, the rafters, and this week its in the WAR Dome in LA, so he is not that hidden. Its not about hiding though, he is at home here as was in the Underground Arena's rafters because he is watching.

 

X PhoeniX

Haven't seen you show up yet ANA and I hope you do. Not just for Mack's sake to keep me busy and out of his match. I hope to get back to business with you ANA because we have had almost parallel careers since you came to SEF, or showed up here to be Marijuana Mack. And at one time I was Super Mack. You and I sat around a few camp fires shooting hand guns into the back woods of Mississippi I think it was, or somewhere in that region. We have a lot of history between us and this match on WAR for my WAR TV Title could be bigger than any other match tonight. Hell, it is for me, this is a match I am looking forward to, a match I am prepared to endure for an hour or longer because I know what were capable of. Now I am not so sure ANA, I am not sure you even want to be here, but maybe you're throwing back to your early days and using that mind of yours to play me!? Well two can play that game ANA, but I don't think that's it. You have been overburdened with a role as playing the Owner for too long and maybe you just need a break, away from the ring!? Maybe you need my title? But getting it from me is going to be real hard these days because I'm simply not going to allow it to slip from my grasp. I may not get involved in anyone else's match, you're welcome Mack, but that doesn't mean no one else will get involved in other matches, or Mack's, or ours, ANA!?!?!

 

Phoenix laughing deviously now echoing across the WAR Dome.

[D-Mack]

#50

Weekly SEW WAR Event Promos / 313 Dialing Another Number

Last post by Daddy Mack - March 07, 2025, 11:08:52 PM

LA...Los Angelos California.

 

SEF has moved to the west coast for this weeks episode of WAR, the first show in March on this road to Wrestle X. Daddy Mack is here, hanging out on the patio of the restaurant at the WAR Dome located on 420 North Los Angelos Drive. A double shot of whiskey in his hand and Mack hanging out in his ring gear with the WAR Tag Team Championship in front of him, both belts, but no partner in sight. Mack with a black ballcap holding his long blonde hair back and a cheap pair of sunglasses concealing his eyes as he sips his whiskey.

 

D-Mack

A must lose scenario for me tonight and I cannot let that happen because Bongman and Big Farm A are just the worst. The only team worse than them would be Boozer and NBD! And Boozer will be here to get involved, and X Phoenix, he is pulling their strings, so he will do anything it takes, I know him. J X CASH refused to come out here to LA and I don't blame him as its nothing against the state or city, its the past he suffered as a child with his mother dragging him to this city only to abandon him, so if he never has to step foot out west, he won't. But that leaves a dilemma for we are bound to have new WAR Tag Team Champions crowned, and with ANA in a WAR TV Title match, he has too much on his plate to step in as I know he wants to be in the 313, hell, he is is in the 313!!! But he has a chance to walk out champion without focusing on my fight and so I won't let him distract himself. He would be doing enough to help me by keep Phoenix focused on defending his WAR TV Title and not interfering in my tag team match. Without Phoenix, Bongman and Big Farm A stand no chance against me alone, and Boozer only adds to their handicap. I still need a partner to be a tag team champion, otherwise I may as well forfeit!? However, I got a few different names I can call on and I could have a partner in LA tonight, or maybe a whole new team!? One thing for sure is that whether I am alone or standing side by side with someone, The Showsteala is right here.

 

Mack downing the rest if his whiskey and calls for a refill.